tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31896366.post7528469312789115556..comments2024-03-22T07:16:35.188+00:00Comments on Against Heresies: Denying exhaustive omniscience: Open theists and SociniansMartin Downeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08019053545918223050noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31896366.post-29022179992917673532015-05-20T08:15:41.236+01:002015-05-20T08:15:41.236+01:00"However, the charge that the open theist vie...<em>"However, the charge that the open theist view is Socinian has proved to be somewhat controversial. It is not hard to see why. The Socinians were heretics. They denied the Trinity, the deity of Christ, justification by faith alone, and penal substitution. That open theists have reproduced the Socinian view of divine foreknowledge is surely undeniable. The comparison, however, has not been well received."</em><br /><br />Which is why I call myself a Socinian rather than an open theists....because I agree with all those points, not just the one.dave bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03481248763950817890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31896366.post-15069046028666216152010-07-21T01:30:38.784+01:002010-07-21T01:30:38.784+01:00" do believe that people class Open Theist as..." do believe that people class Open Theist as Socianist because of the association with this heretical group." by this I meant people try to tar them with the same brush.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31896366.post-57602474381290350582010-07-21T01:29:25.230+01:002010-07-21T01:29:25.230+01:00Socianism - Open Theism. Same connection as Islam ...Socianism - Open Theism. Same connection as Islam - Calvinism.<br /><br />I disagree with your formulation. In your article you say you agree there is no causal connection but then later call Socianism the forebearer of Open Theists, implying some causal connection between the two groups. I do believe that people class Open Theist as Socianist because of the association with this heretical group.<br /><br />The two groups have the same association as Islam does with Calvinism ie both believing in a God of meticulous control of every event.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31896366.post-6633941581180966202010-05-15T22:26:15.526+01:002010-05-15T22:26:15.526+01:00Pastor Downes,
It comes as no surprise that Pinnoc...Pastor Downes,<br />It comes as no surprise that Pinnock is publicly unsettled by the "great cloud of heretics" which his position echoes demonstrably. What theologian would seek to equate his position with a heretic? Notwithstanding Pinnock's objection, there is factual correspondence between the ignorance of the Socinian deity and the god of open theism. <br /><br />Thank you for pointing out that Strimple and Erickson are not drawing a caricature of open theism that corresponds with all things Faustus. Pinnock's objection attempts to use too broad a brush in order to brush off their accurate criticism.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13858857487962300855noreply@blogger.com